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governor of texas and, of course, the big p. still waits to see what happens with sarah palin. >> funny, if were you from another planet, mike, you notice that the people are heavy set. the bigger people like jeb, and like certainly haley barbour my pal.ç and chris christie. heavy set guys, using the right terms, aren't running. the skinny minis are running. i don't know what that's about. must be politically correct to be skinny these days. i appreciate your -- up next, the gunman in those horrific attacks in norway says he wanted to take his country back for the muslims and immigrants, blaming liberals for pushing multiculturalism. a very sensitive topic. let's look at the state of right wing extremism in europe. this is "hardball" only on msnbc. >> ( rooster crows ) >> by 2020, 50 billion network devices will roam the earth. that's seven devices per person. this will change how we work in ways we've never before imagined. what do you need to secure your people, their devices, and your business? a network that can evolve and
governor of texas and, of course, the big p. still waits to see what happens with sarah palin. >> funny, if were you from another planet, mike, you notice that the people are heavy set. the bigger people like jeb, and like certainly haley barbour my pal.ç and chris christie. heavy set guys, using the right terms, aren't running. the skinny minis are running. i don't know what that's about. must be politically correct to be skinny these days. i appreciate your -- up next, the gunman in...
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three, and also a chip away at big spending numbers. why would they miss this opportunity? >> you know, i'm not opposed to ideology, i believe it's about principles. this party is astonishingly wreckless and astonishingly in the grip of what a wall street guy called grover nor quist a fiscal terrorist. you have people who are unwilling to think about what it takes to run a country. and we are now looking at a major struggle in this country that's going to play out over the next few years. the size and scale of government and what it means for people who depefd on services on programs that have been part of the fabric of this life as these people try to roll back the 20th -- >> you've been around this racquet a long time, politics. we have some big stories brewing, we have this story, wisconsin. >> yeah. >> i mean, i think they're connected. >> there's a connection. >> there is a huge connection. you have the people rising up and pushing back, a -- and a sea of change taking place. that's where america's talking right now? >> what's goi
three, and also a chip away at big spending numbers. why would they miss this opportunity? >> you know, i'm not opposed to ideology, i believe it's about principles. this party is astonishingly wreckless and astonishingly in the grip of what a wall street guy called grover nor quist a fiscal terrorist. you have people who are unwilling to think about what it takes to run a country. and we are now looking at a major struggle in this country that's going to play out over the next few years....
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why this school system doesn't want that is a big question. that needs to change. >> david mcfarland from the trevor project. thanks for your time. i want to pass along to everyone out there, if you or someone is feeling bullied or at risk of suicide for anyone across the board. it doesn't matter if you are part of the lgbt community. you can call the trevor project lifeline at 866-488-7386. this lifeline is free and confidential. >>> here is an amazing statistic. half of all new jobs since the recession added has been added in one state alone. the state's governor might consider using this employment boost to help his run for the white house. there is the man himself. [ male announcer ] this...is the network -- a network of possibilities. in here, the planned combination of at&t and t-mobile would deliver our next generation mobile broadband experience to 55 million more americans, many in small towns and rural communities, giving them a new choice. we'll deliver better service, with thousands of new cell sites... for greater access to all th
why this school system doesn't want that is a big question. that needs to change. >> david mcfarland from the trevor project. thanks for your time. i want to pass along to everyone out there, if you or someone is feeling bullied or at risk of suicide for anyone across the board. it doesn't matter if you are part of the lgbt community. you can call the trevor project lifeline at 866-488-7386. this lifeline is free and confidential. >>> here is an amazing statistic. half of all new...
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you had the big headline. gigantic headline that said, first time ever, worst congress ever, first time, the 111th congress ever. the rating showed the most conservative democratic senator was to the left of the most liberal republican. there is now no overlap ideologically at all between the parties making this a dysfunctional congress. >> we always have boy boisterousness, but in the belly of the beast i haven't seen it this bad. we just don't have a center anymore. fundamentally, chuck what we have is parliamentary pard innocen partens. you have a minority republican party with the reins of power through the house. voting no on everything the president wants or does, leads to the embarrassment we're seeing now. >> and senator, were you from a conservative, ideologically, moderate to conservative center right stake being a democrat. almost forced politically to always be the person in the middle. that's not the case in the house. >> i think norm's right, check, in the sense there's no more large, healthy cen
you had the big headline. gigantic headline that said, first time ever, worst congress ever, first time, the 111th congress ever. the rating showed the most conservative democratic senator was to the left of the most liberal republican. there is now no overlap ideologically at all between the parties making this a dysfunctional congress. >> we always have boy boisterousness, but in the belly of the beast i haven't seen it this bad. we just don't have a center anymore. fundamentally, chuck...
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i'm contessa brewer covering the big news coast to coast. the big story, dysfunction junction. seven days and counting to the august 2nd debt default deadline. the two sides seem even further apart. >> right now there's no danger of any bill getting to the president's desk because we're at stalemate. >> it seems an edge bridgeable gap. >> the american people may have voted for divided government, but they didn't vote for a dysfunctional government. >> in back-to-back speeches president obama and house speaker john boehner laid out duelling debt plans. >> we can't allow the american people to become collateral damage to washington's political warfare. >> president obama pushing what he calls a balanced approach. including spending cuts and raising tax revenue. >> the sad truth is that the president wanted a blank check six months ago and he wants a blank check today. >> john boehne
i'm contessa brewer covering the big news coast to coast. the big story, dysfunction junction. seven days and counting to the august 2nd debt default deadline. the two sides seem even further apart. >> right now there's no danger of any bill getting to the president's desk because we're at stalemate. >> it seems an edge bridgeable gap. >> the american people may have voted for divided government, but they didn't vote for a dysfunctional government. >> in back-to-back...
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you know the big of politics. i wonder, what is it like to stand there as a senator from new hampshire waiting for the president and boehner and the crazy tea party people to cook up a deal, and then you've got to decide on what to do with it. what is the mood now among the grownup senators? >> i think people are very frustrated. it is time now for us to act. we have the whole world watching. we have an economy in this country that will have devastating consequences if we fail to raise the debt ceiling. middle-class families across this country who will be affected with their credit cards, car payments and mortgage payments. this is a manufactured crisis, it doesn't need to be there. it's time for people to put aside their partisan differences and come to the table and get this done. >> what i don't understand is -ç well, i do understand, but i don't want to, this coming together of ideology and crisis management. we have a solvency problem in the federal government, spending more than bringing in. that's a pract
you know the big of politics. i wonder, what is it like to stand there as a senator from new hampshire waiting for the president and boehner and the crazy tea party people to cook up a deal, and then you've got to decide on what to do with it. what is the mood now among the grownup senators? >> i think people are very frustrated. it is time now for us to act. we have the whole world watching. we have an economy in this country that will have devastating consequences if we fail to raise...
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can she get real support from big downers? another problem that's coming up, she's missing a lot of votes. she's a member of congress. where is she on the votes? she's missed 50 of 135 votes. >> she's made 50 votes, and a lot of competitors have not missed votes in a way she has. i think you combine that with the migraine stories, she's got to get in front of the issues and explain why she hasn't been on the floor of the congress especially as the country is facing a battle right now on capitol hill. >> well, we'll see where it goes. i mean, at this rate, her biggest contribution may be to stop sarah palin. >> if that's a contribution, i think some people will take it, al. >> i'll take it. let me ask you this. how does she regroup? do you think if she came out of the bubble and dealt with these questions straight up and forthright, she can recapture it? she had momentum going, and she has struck fear into the heart of tim pawlenty. >> they're fighting and -- >> there's a healthy tit for tat going between the two campaigns. the
can she get real support from big downers? another problem that's coming up, she's missing a lot of votes. she's a member of congress. where is she on the votes? she's missed 50 of 135 votes. >> she's made 50 votes, and a lot of competitors have not missed votes in a way she has. i think you combine that with the migraine stories, she's got to get in front of the issues and explain why she hasn't been on the floor of the congress especially as the country is facing a battle right now on...
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a big jock. and pat instead of sort of flinching or running away turned around and said, yeah, i am a queer. kiss me. and the bully said, what are you talking about? and he said i'm a queer. you called me queer. i am a queer. kiss me. i'll prove it. and the bully didn't know what to say. and he just turned around and walked away quietly. and i was stunned. i couldn't believe the magic that pat had just worked. he had somehow figured out that if you don't give power to the words that people throw at you to hurt you, they don't hurt you anymore. and you actually have power over those people. and that's a lesson that i am grateful to him for, for my entire life. so if you can, realize the things that people say about you don't really matter. it's who you are. and the older you get, the more you'll understand that, because it gets better. people get nicer too. >>> and there is breaking news tonight in the it does get better department. secretary of defense leon panetta will reportedly certify that th
a big jock. and pat instead of sort of flinching or running away turned around and said, yeah, i am a queer. kiss me. and the bully said, what are you talking about? and he said i'm a queer. you called me queer. i am a queer. kiss me. i'll prove it. and the bully didn't know what to say. and he just turned around and walked away quietly. and i was stunned. i couldn't believe the magic that pat had just worked. he had somehow figured out that if you don't give power to the words that people...
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go, big money! i mean, go. it's your break, honey. same coverage, more savings. now, that's progressive. call or click today. >>> up next the policy challenges with jared bernstein. later, tim pawlenty continues to talk tough in iowa. that's in the rewrite. >>> congress now has one week left to act. there's still pass forward. the senate introduced a plan to avoid default which makes a down payment and ensures we don't have to go through this again in six months. i think that's a much better approach, although serious deficit reduction would still require us to tackle the tough challenges of entitlement and tax reform. >> that was the president addressing the nation from the east room earlier this evening. joining me now is jerrold bernstein, the former chief economist to vice president biden. he's currently a senior fellow at the center on budget and policy priorities and an msnbc contributor. jared, first of all, let's talk about the policies now that came out on what is called the reid plan in which there's no revenue increases at all. that's the latest compro
go, big money! i mean, go. it's your break, honey. same coverage, more savings. now, that's progressive. call or click today. >>> up next the policy challenges with jared bernstein. later, tim pawlenty continues to talk tough in iowa. that's in the rewrite. >>> congress now has one week left to act. there's still pass forward. the senate introduced a plan to avoid default which makes a down payment and ensures we don't have to go through this again in six months. i think...
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he is a big loser. but he was afraid he would be an even bigger loser. which is why they changed the bill. i think he felt that if last night he brought it to a vote and he lost, that the tea party types, a lot of other people in the republican party bo come after his speakership. look, this pizza legislation today and ed rendell is right, it is not going anywhere, you're absolutely right. in fact, john mccain said conditioning the debt limit increase on a balanced budget amendment is a fraud. this legislation odd todd isn't about saving the full faith and credit of the united states, it is about saving john boehner's speakership. >> the final vote, they are actually voting right now on this third plan now that would call for even more cuts that would call for a balanced budget to pass both houses and go to the states. didn't have to be ratified for the states before they raise the second limit but it would have to pass oath houses and they are voting right now live this is the main vote that expected to pass. after the speaker, who i'm calling now the w
he is a big loser. but he was afraid he would be an even bigger loser. which is why they changed the bill. i think he felt that if last night he brought it to a vote and he lost, that the tea party types, a lot of other people in the republican party bo come after his speakership. look, this pizza legislation today and ed rendell is right, it is not going anywhere, you're absolutely right. in fact, john mccain said conditioning the debt limit increase on a balanced budget amendment is a fraud....
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>>> well, the big story today, the real debt debate. good afternoon to you. happy monday to you. i'm name dylan ratigan and we have a major lineup for you today combining the powers of msnbc, the newly revamped dylanratigan.com and the huffington post to bring you a real conversation a way from the washington talking points. in the show today -- a d.r. exclusive with one of the true conservatives in this nation that i respect. senator tom coburn on the whys and hows behind higs new plan to save $9 trillion and more importantly seek to establish true confidence in america's political and economic problem-solving systems. also today a look at the real dheel would replace the taxes and austerity debate with tree structuring versus taxes and austerity as it may be the only solution that could not only save america but the world from long-term financial ruin. but it's a debate neither president obama nor republican leadership wants to touch. >>> before we step away, though, for senator coburn, let's look at what the rest of the lawmakers are doing, calling it the congressional two-ste
>>> well, the big story today, the real debt debate. good afternoon to you. happy monday to you. i'm name dylan ratigan and we have a major lineup for you today combining the powers of msnbc, the newly revamped dylanratigan.com and the huffington post to bring you a real conversation a way from the washington talking points. in the show today -- a d.r. exclusive with one of the true conservatives in this nation that i respect. senator tom coburn on the whys and hows behind higs new...
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>> i think mitch mcconnell holds a big club. i think in the end -- i had a conversation, i can't tell you who, but a conversation with a conservative but decent enough southern republican conservative senator. he said we are just this close. he thinks we are this close in agreement. he's not one of the six or seven or eight or ten best targets we think we have among republicans. we are eventually going to break this filibuster. i think they'll try their gimmicks. that is what mitch mcconnell lives on. we'll get this to happen. we'll send it back to the house. there, patriotism prevails. even most of the democrats, maybe 150, 160, 170, to join 50 republicans that, not the tea party, but the 50 reasonable republicans. >> do you want to give us the initials, maybe the state of that senator? >> i'm sorry? >> the state of the senator, just the initials? >> no. that would nail it down. i would say southern deep south, wrong side of the civil war. i'm not going to tell you the state. >> senator john thume laid out a plan. take a listen
>> i think mitch mcconnell holds a big club. i think in the end -- i had a conversation, i can't tell you who, but a conversation with a conservative but decent enough southern republican conservative senator. he said we are just this close. he thinks we are this close in agreement. he's not one of the six or seven or eight or ten best targets we think we have among republicans. we are eventually going to break this filibuster. i think they'll try their gimmicks. that is what mitch...
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the stunning events playing out in the house could mean big losses on wall street and beyond as this debt ceiling battle pushes down to the wire. for the very latest on today's trading session i'm delighted to welcome back jim cramer host of msnbc's "mad money" and jim, can i begin with the staggering news that apple company is holding more money than the government with over $76 billion and the government with $73 billion and maybe we should ask steve jobs for a handout. >> i did a piece on "mad money" last week which the thought was that the idea that maybe we should have iusa, and in other words, if apple were to put some of the skills together with the government, we would end up with a incredibly powerful government to take over china as opposed the china take us over and astounding the world with the best products. apple is an amazing company and it is not necessarily a reflection of the united states, because every company is jealous oapple, too. >> well, we have had seriously further indication of the recession not lifting anything like we thought with growth revised down for
the stunning events playing out in the house could mean big losses on wall street and beyond as this debt ceiling battle pushes down to the wire. for the very latest on today's trading session i'm delighted to welcome back jim cramer host of msnbc's "mad money" and jim, can i begin with the staggering news that apple company is holding more money than the government with over $76 billion and the government with $73 billion and maybe we should ask steve jobs for a handout. >> i...
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i love politics because it's about big ideas, big reasons, about the kind of country you
i love politics because it's about big ideas, big reasons, about the kind of country you
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it is a big deal. i think that even if a deal is reached, and i believe there will be one and listening to geithner and members of both sides of the aisle saying that we will not default does not mean that the rating agencies will not downgrade u.s. debt which calls in whole other set of questions from the breadth of the full faith and credit and the collateral issue and the mandate of a lot of of the pension funds and insurance funds to only own triple aç securities is more of the shorter term concern. >> but the longer it goes on, one imagines the longer it affects the markets, and today, all of the markets are down? >> well, it is down, but it is a fairly benign reaction given some of the extreme assumptions of when the asian markets were opening that it is a real disaster. the markets are telling you that they have faith that something is going to get done here and you are seeing it on the equities side and the fixed income side in terms of the ten-year treasury yield, and yeah, it is down, but n
it is a big deal. i think that even if a deal is reached, and i believe there will be one and listening to geithner and members of both sides of the aisle saying that we will not default does not mean that the rating agencies will not downgrade u.s. debt which calls in whole other set of questions from the breadth of the full faith and credit and the collateral issue and the mandate of a lot of of the pension funds and insurance funds to only own triple aç securities is more of the shorter...
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a big deal for that matter? >> no. i think frankly the pressure is on the president of the united states. he has shown such a terrible lack of leadership in this entire debate. tara mentions, of course, that the president has been willing to compromise. i can't thij think of one area where he's shown a willingness to compromise with republicans. the republicans have consistently put their plans in writing. the other thing that the administration is being so irresponsible about is saying, oh, if we have a default, it's going to crash the markets. we take in $200 billion a month in the united states. we can pay our priorities. >> tara almost fell off her chair. >> i did almost fall off my chair. i think that this is completely false what you're saying. first of all, the president did lay out a plan. he laid out a plan earlier this t year to cut the deficit and the debt $4 trillion over the course of 12 years. when that plan didn't move forward, he showed willingness to compromise again and put forth a plan $4 tril
a big deal for that matter? >> no. i think frankly the pressure is on the president of the united states. he has shown such a terrible lack of leadership in this entire debate. tara mentions, of course, that the president has been willing to compromise. i can't thij think of one area where he's shown a willingness to compromise with republicans. the republicans have consistently put their plans in writing. the other thing that the administration is being so irresponsible about is saying,...
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governor of texas and, of course, the big p. still waits to see what happens with sarah palin. >> funny, if were you from another planet, mike, you notice that the people are heavy set. the bigger people like jeb, and like certainly haley barbour my pal. heavy set guys, using the right terms, aren't running. the skinny minis are running. i don't know what that's about. must be politically correct to be running these days. i appreciate your -- up next, the gunman in those horrific attacks in norway says he wanted to take his country back for the muslims and immigrants, blaming liberals for pushing multiculturalism. a very sensitive topic. let's look at 9 state of right wing extremism in europe. this is "hardball" only on msnbc.ç announcer ] this...is the network -- a network of possibilities. in here, the planned combination of at&t and t-mobile would deliver our next generation mobile broadband experience to 55 million more americans, many in small towns and rural communities, giving them a new choice. we'll deliver better ser
governor of texas and, of course, the big p. still waits to see what happens with sarah palin. >> funny, if were you from another planet, mike, you notice that the people are heavy set. the bigger people like jeb, and like certainly haley barbour my pal. heavy set guys, using the right terms, aren't running. the skinny minis are running. i don't know what that's about. must be politically correct to be running these days. i appreciate your -- up next, the gunman in those horrific attacks...
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. >> joel, in the national, statistical picture, the big focus of it, we have studies indicating 85% of lgbt students surveyed nationally say they have been bullied at school. this is, by no means, individualized to particular school districts. >> absolutely. again, it is a nationwide problem, but there are cultures created within these school districts about how to deal with it, and you find in areas either in states or school districts where the -- they have policies prohibiting this type of activity of bullying and of prohibiting any kind of discussion about homosexuality. the suicide rates amongst lgbt teens are much lower. that's something proved out in a variety of places, the fact it's higher in anoka-hennepin point to problems there. >> joel burns, thank you for returning to "the last word" tonight. where you made your network television today buh and in the process won a glad award. thanks for joining us again. >> i'm happy to be here and i hope the congresswoman ends her silence soon. >> thank you, joel. thank you. you can have the last word
. >> joel, in the national, statistical picture, the big focus of it, we have studies indicating 85% of lgbt students surveyed nationally say they have been bullied at school. this is, by no means, individualized to particular school districts. >> absolutely. again, it is a nationwide problem, but there are cultures created within these school districts about how to deal with it, and you find in areas either in states or school districts where the -- they have policies prohibiting...
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there are three different big deals out there. number one is what the president and speaker boehner and eric cantor are negotiating, which is, yes, a big deal that is separate from anything the gang of six in the senate is working on. and then of course there's mcconnell-reid. one thing that's going on in the last 24 to 48 hours, is any deal that's mcconnell-reid that includes this idea of sort of the disapproval vote, giving the president more power to raise the debt ceiling, that thing has grown to the point of almost being toxic with some house republicans. in fact, they hate it so much, they may prefer to negotiate with the president directly. but for the white house, getting the 217 means making a deal acceptable to at least some of those houses with 87 new members. the man who's made himself their standard bearer, majority leader eric cantor put it this way. >> one-third of the republican conference and one-quarter of the entire house of representatives are freshmen, they're new. many of them have never served in public offi
there are three different big deals out there. number one is what the president and speaker boehner and eric cantor are negotiating, which is, yes, a big deal that is separate from anything the gang of six in the senate is working on. and then of course there's mcconnell-reid. one thing that's going on in the last 24 to 48 hours, is any deal that's mcconnell-reid that includes this idea of sort of the disapproval vote, giving the president more power to raise the debt ceiling, that thing has...
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they simply wanted to cut the big deal. they want to be involved something big. these are senators. this is what senators do. that was a little bit of the divide yesterday. mcconnell and reid on one page, which was interesting and the rank and file on another. why was the president so quick to come to the cameras to praise the bipartisan gang? a lot of reasons, but the white house has seen some of the same polling we have. according to our new nbc "wall street journal" poll, voters prefer a big plan, the president's idea of a $4 trillion deficit reduction package that's mixed with some tax hikes on wealthy americans and corporations, over this idea of a cuts only approach of 2.5 trillion that house republicans say they would prefer. it was a 58-36 split. wasn't even close. independents, 54% of them preferred that bigger approach, the president's approach which is similar to gang of six and why he came out for it. the only people that seem to be on the other side of this were some of the core rank and file republicans and tea party supporters. more from this poll. 52% believe democra
they simply wanted to cut the big deal. they want to be involved something big. these are senators. this is what senators do. that was a little bit of the divide yesterday. mcconnell and reid on one page, which was interesting and the rank and file on another. why was the president so quick to come to the cameras to praise the bipartisan gang? a lot of reasons, but the white house has seen some of the same polling we have. according to our new nbc "wall street journal" poll, voters...
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that was the big of the issue going into this. what appears to be coming out of this, about a 52/48 for ownership. what are they worth? about $200 million this year. a lot more later in the deal. that's on that side of the fence. the owners get a nice victory there. a lot of thing for the playerswe talked about health and safety. a lot of reduced off-seasons and contracts. next off-season may look light this season when they're locked out. the other thing, technical. now teams have to spend -- usually there's a cap to worry about the upper limit. now the lower limit. teams that have underspent have to spend up. $20 million we are year per team pap great thing. i always told the players, get them to bend pop don't worry about the cowboys and redskins that always bend, get the teams that don't to bend. you have upspending by the whole nfl, which helps players immensely. >> dave when i hear about all the owners, some of america's leading capitalists talking about carving up the pie and spending requirements, it always sounds like the
that was the big of the issue going into this. what appears to be coming out of this, about a 52/48 for ownership. what are they worth? about $200 million this year. a lot more later in the deal. that's on that side of the fence. the owners get a nice victory there. a lot of thing for the playerswe talked about health and safety. a lot of reduced off-seasons and contracts. next off-season may look light this season when they're locked out. the other thing, technical. now teams have to spend --...
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. >> and big money, big problems? >> gop fund-raisers staying on the sidelines. >> for mitt romney it's 70% maxed out contributions. >> is newt aware he's running for president? >> the arrests continue as the british police close in on rupert murdoch's media empire scandal. >> every day we're seeing more inconceivable things happen. >> abandon ship. in the last 24 hours there have been two high level resignations. zo london's top cop. >> rebekah brooks was released on jail. >> rupert murdoch is supposed to face the scandal head on tomorrow. >> all eyes are trained on parliament tomorrow. >> they're cutting short a trip today to south africa. >> when is he going to do the decent thing and resign? >> congress now has 15 days to pass a bill to raise the debt ceiling before the united states government goes into a catastrophic default on august 2nd. today harry reid announced the senate will meet every day until the debt ceiling is raised. yesterday david rogers of politico discovered and reported that house speaker john
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two, we have as i said multiple opportunities to compromise and the idea, this big question of whether the president will veto it, the chief of staff says he will do it. we have a statement of administration policy that says he will do it. that doesn't matter. it won't get to the president's desk. there are 58 senators who said they would oppose the boehner bill, which makes it less popular than congressman ryan's budget, than the cut, cap and balance plan everyone knew was dead on arrival in the senate. we have to get rid of the political statements, the political games, and get something done. you just need house republicans be willing to do something other than say, as i read this morning, the boehner bill is take it or leave it, we will stick the default on the president. that's not the way we govern in this country. that's not the right thing to do. >> dan pfeiffer, thank you very much. the very latest from the white house. thanks for coming. >>> if the boehner bill does clear the house as is expected now, senate majority leader harry reid says the senate will vote on it tonight a
two, we have as i said multiple opportunities to compromise and the idea, this big question of whether the president will veto it, the chief of staff says he will do it. we have a statement of administration policy that says he will do it. that doesn't matter. it won't get to the president's desk. there are 58 senators who said they would oppose the boehner bill, which makes it less popular than congressman ryan's budget, than the cut, cap and balance plan everyone knew was dead on arrival in...
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so you might as well go big. is that the lesson from last night? speaker boehner ought to go back with you and the president and go get the big deal again? >> well i don't want to give speaker boehner any advice. i will tell you this. for what it's worth, maybe i sound like pollyanna, i don't know, but i really do think speaker boehner wants to do something great for our country. i really do. and i think he's one of those folks that candidly would be willing to lose his speakership over doing something great for the country. i believe that, and i think there are a lot of people around here that realize that you know, this is really an opportune time to do something great. nobody wants to default, chuck, and i've got to believe -- as a matter of fact, i more than have to believe, i know that these guys have to have some sort of short-term extension in the event we don't quite get there by tuesday, but one thing i do hope is that the american people, you know, stop worrying. i really do think that we're going to get something done. i'm here in the mi
so you might as well go big. is that the lesson from last night? speaker boehner ought to go back with you and the president and go get the big deal again? >> well i don't want to give speaker boehner any advice. i will tell you this. for what it's worth, maybe i sound like pollyanna, i don't know, but i really do think speaker boehner wants to do something great for our country. i really do. and i think he's one of those folks that candidly would be willing to lose his speakership over...
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the president has laid out a big plan. majority leader harry reid and the senate democrats have said we want to work toward a big plan to reduce this deficit by at least $4 trillion over the next ten years. >> senator durbin -- >> we've got to do this. >> my question is, is whether president obama is the one to really lead this? there are some progressives as well as republicans who say that he has been late to this negotiation, late with ideas and late to provide leadership. >> david, let me tell you, if you could have been in the white house cabinet room, as i was, for six separate meetings, and watched this president of the united states patiently listen to each member of the leadership in congress lay out their ideas of where to go and how we can do this together, if you know that he started the meeting saying "i'm putting everything on the table" so that we can have a reasonable, comprehensive approach to it, you saw real leadership in action. i can't think of another president in my memory who would have devoted that
the president has laid out a big plan. majority leader harry reid and the senate democrats have said we want to work toward a big plan to reduce this deficit by at least $4 trillion over the next ten years. >> senator durbin -- >> we've got to do this. >> my question is, is whether president obama is the one to really lead this? there are some progressives as well as republicans who say that he has been late to this negotiation, late with ideas and late to provide leadership....
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>> i think any big story. forrer the purpose of process most stories start out with the reporter. and that reporter may be being asked by the news editor to go and investigate a story or they may have brought information about a story from their own contacts to the news editor. it is at that stage in a newspaper where the reporter and news editor discuss the voracity of the information, go out and check the allegations, and come back with a more considered view. you can imagine that every newspaper gets a lot of information to the news desk and only percentage very small percentage makes it actually to publication. there are many layers from reporter to assistant news editor to news editor. finally this story will go to the back bench which will be the people that will oversee the stopping of that story and the subwill often talk to the reporter directly with questions and amendments to the copy. the lawyers are involved at this stage throughout the process. and then finally the final decision on publication would be made by the editor where it is and how prominent it was. obvious
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that's the big test. he has it figure out if he can get the 217 votes for this bill, which will probably then be at least in his mind, the blueprint for some sort of negotiations to raise the debt ceiling. i think one of the things that a speaker obviously has to dos well is to set up all of the reelection prospects for the members. so the question in 2012, did the speaker pro individual a viegs, rational off of their candidacy and rational for a republican presidency. so i think that's the real test and there will be many other moments the next couple of months as the presidential race unfolds and as other topics come up in the congress. >> well, we'll see. let me ask another question. are liberal's really feeling left behind in conservatives overjoyed by a new poll showing the president losing support on the left. washington post polls said the numbers who liked the president's records on jobs have dropped 22% so far this year. but the huffington post has looked back at history and in fact, president ob
that's the big test. he has it figure out if he can get the 217 votes for this bill, which will probably then be at least in his mind, the blueprint for some sort of negotiations to raise the debt ceiling. i think one of the things that a speaker obviously has to dos well is to set up all of the reelection prospects for the members. so the question in 2012, did the speaker pro individual a viegs, rational off of their candidacy and rational for a republican presidency. so i think that's the...
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ryan plan, and making big proposals as you have seen bit gop. so i will absolutely concede that from a strategic messaging point. yeah, the party has been off point a bit. it doesn't, however, take away from the underlying argument that country wants us to do something about spending. and al, i've said this from the beginning -- >> the amendment is not it. do you really that if you had -- just a minute. i let you finish. let me raise this point. do you realize michael that if you add balanced budget amendment that ronald reagan, with his budget illegal eight times, that george bush would have been illegal eight times. that michael -- that bill clinton would have been illegal twice. even the ryan budget doesn't fit this. i mean, come on. when do you guys understand that this is totally -- >> that's the point. that's why those members want that constitutional revision put in place so we do not have the spending that occurred on both republican and democratic administrations over the past 15 to 20 years. i mean, these individuals ran on this -- thi
ryan plan, and making big proposals as you have seen bit gop. so i will absolutely concede that from a strategic messaging point. yeah, the party has been off point a bit. it doesn't, however, take away from the underlying argument that country wants us to do something about spending. and al, i've said this from the beginning -- >> the amendment is not it. do you really that if you had -- just a minute. i let you finish. let me raise this point. do you realize michael that if you add...
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that leads to my big question today. now that she's free, here's the big question, what are casey anthony's long-term career prospects? you can join in the conversation we're having on facebook and twitter or shoot me an email. >>> moody's credit rating agency is suggesting the u.s. should get rid of the debt ceiling entirely because of all the chaos and uncertainty it seems to create. senator majority leader harry reid and his republican counterpart mitch mcconnell appear to have a similar idea. "the washington post" reports they're working on a back up plan that would allow the president to raise the debt ceiling three times over the next year. for a photo tal of $2.5 trillion in exchange the president would agree to a $1.5 trillion in spending cuts. and there would be a new congressional committee tasked with finding even deficit reductions. some conservative republicans aren't sold on that. >> the way the deal's currently structured right now. it gives the president the ability to raise the debt limit. >> the mcconne
that leads to my big question today. now that she's free, here's the big question, what are casey anthony's long-term career prospects? you can join in the conversation we're having on facebook and twitter or shoot me an email. >>> moody's credit rating agency is suggesting the u.s. should get rid of the debt ceiling entirely because of all the chaos and uncertainty it seems to create. senator majority leader harry reid and his republican counterpart mitch mcconnell appear to have a...
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protecting and defending tax loopholes for millionaires and big corporations is what republicans have called for. they need to meet us somewhere. >> thank you, congressman steve israel. >> thank you. >>> joining me now, "washington post's" chris, author of "the fix." a managing editor also. let's visit this grover norquist issue. i think on tuesday in an interview with your "washington post" editorial board, grover norquist, the man famous for his anti-tax pledge, said that not renewing the bush tax cuts would not violate his pledge. listen to some of that audio released. >> not continuing a tax cut is not technically a tax increase. >> stow does not violate the pledge. >> we wouldn't hold it that way. it would be a very bad thing to do. it would raise taxes from where they are today. >> who don't follow the inside baseball the way you and i eat, drink and sleep it. what is the significance of grover norquist saying that? >> for people who don't know, grover norquist since 1985 has run a group called americans for tax reform pap d.c.-based group that does a lot of thing. basically, to
protecting and defending tax loopholes for millionaires and big corporations is what republicans have called for. they need to meet us somewhere. >> thank you, congressman steve israel. >> thank you. >>> joining me now, "washington post's" chris, author of "the fix." a managing editor also. let's visit this grover norquist issue. i think on tuesday in an interview with your "washington post" editorial board, grover norquist, the man famous for...
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but there are two big things. most damaging of all, he was pressed several times on whether he had had any conversations with all of his various contacts and friends at rupert murdoch's company in the u.k. about a $12 billion attempt to buy out the reminder of bskyb, the big broadcaster over there. this was a deal that the british government has quasi-judicial authority to approve or deny. all he could say is he had no inappropriate conversations. he kept using that phrase. frankly, it didn't sound like the members of parliament really bought that line. the second thing, a really explosive claim, that someone in the senior government, a senior government official had been hacked and bugged while andy coulson was there. these kinds of allegations are -- they just keep cropping up every day and it doesn't look like this kind of statement or investigations are going to end any time soon. >> yeah, we could be early in the game at the moment. michael, i want to play some sound from yesterday's testimony, what we heard
but there are two big things. most damaging of all, he was pressed several times on whether he had had any conversations with all of his various contacts and friends at rupert murdoch's company in the u.k. about a $12 billion attempt to buy out the reminder of bskyb, the big broadcaster over there. this was a deal that the british government has quasi-judicial authority to approve or deny. all he could say is he had no inappropriate conversations. he kept using that phrase. frankly, it didn't...
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the big question mark, what does harry reid do once the bill reaches the senate. with me white house senior adviser david plouffe. nice to see you. let me start with any -- let me start with this. the president's veto threat when it comes to the boehner plan specific to the boehner plan, is it clear that the president is going to -- he wants to veto any process that doesn't raise this debt ceiling past 2012, is that really the veto threat here that is the line in the sand for the white house? >> well, let me explain why that's important, chuck. what the house republican plan would do is have this whole debt ceiling spectacle, three-ring circus the president talked about monday, repeated again a few months from now over the holidays. you know, the debt ceiling debate would ruin christmas. it makes no sense. it's harming our economy now. you would have this hanging over the country at one of the most economically important periods of our country around the holiday season. that makes no sense. what we need to do over the next few days -- listen, the reid plan has twi
the big question mark, what does harry reid do once the bill reaches the senate. with me white house senior adviser david plouffe. nice to see you. let me start with any -- let me start with this. the president's veto threat when it comes to the boehner plan specific to the boehner plan, is it clear that the president is going to -- he wants to veto any process that doesn't raise this debt ceiling past 2012, is that really the veto threat here that is the line in the sand for the white house?...
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we ought to get outside and debate the big picture, what kind of country we want to live in, what kind of country we want this to be. that's why i like politics, roosevelt, reagan, kennedy, the stuff even young kids like me cared about. that's "hardball," thanks for being with us. "the last word with lawrence o'donnell" starts right now. >> joel burns is with us tonight to respond to michele bachmann's statement on bullying. but bullying isn't the only danger the tea party just doesn't understand. >> first of all, you don't look happy on the front page of "the new york times." >> first, speaker of the house john boehner, it doesn't get better. >> the speaker of the house is being whip sawed today between his tea party caucus. >> this is the moment of the boehner speakership. >> the plan is officially a flop. >> the budget office downgrading the revenue projections. >> told gop lawmakers to get their "blank" in line. >> get their behind in line, thomas. >> he was really cracking the whip. >> it says boehner's grip on his caucus is put to test in standoff. >> the world's saddest tangerin
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a couple of big headlines out there to follow. greatly appreciate it. >>> we have breaking news on the british hacking scandal. just a short time ago police say that shawn horde, who is a reporter who is accused of hacking in the scandal is found dead in his apartment, and we are told that it is not considered suspicious, but we want to say that the authority says that the death of the man is not suspicious at this point, but obviously, he is one of the first if not the first reporter of the new york times to go the talk about the widespread hacking scandal. >> he was key to the scandal, and you are right, the police say the death is not suspicious, but it is unexpected so there are going to be lots of questions a about this, and the reporter was not only the first person to publicly allege as a former em employee of "news of the world" that andy colson knew all about it, and he said he had listened to tapes of hacking of the editor's office and he had been instructed by andy colson to do it. so what he did with that evidence was
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we have a big show tomorrow. on the show, senate budget committee chairman kent conrad and congressman tom price from the budget committee, and former white house deputy press secretary bill burton and the new york times business reporter andrew sorkin and lawrence o'donnell host of "last word with lawrence o'donnell" on msnbc, and my colleague tamron hall is off today, and thomas roberts is standing in for her. >> we are following the latest at the white house where lawmakers are trying to come to a compromise. now in order to prevent default which is seven days away, what happens if america's credit rating is ultimately downgraded. >>> and david wu says he is resigning from office amid a sex scandal, but not immediately, and we will have details on "newsnation" up next. 3q double shift... i need a break. he needs some gellin'. yeahhhhhhh. gellin' is like having a teeny tiny foot masseuse in your shoe. you like ? nice ! dr. scholl's massaging gel insoles. outrageous comfort, all-day long. but afraid you can't af
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and i'm a big fan, i'm from iowa originally. >> nice. >> yes. i'm an atheist and in zanesville, ohio, in 2008 you asserted that no organization receiving taxpayer funds would be able to discriminate in hiring or firing based on a person's religion. however, you have not rescinded the executive order that permits this type of discrimination. in a time of economic hardship when it's difficult for a person to get a job based on her skills, what would you say to a woman who has been denied employment because of her religion or lack of religious beliefs by a taxpayer-funded organization? >> well, this is a very difficult issue, but a more narrow one than i think might be implied. it's very straightforward that people shouldn't be discriminated against for race, gender, sexual orientation or religious affiliation. what has happened is, is that there has been a carve out, dating back to president clinton's presidency, for religious organizations in their hiring for particular purposes. and this is always a tricky part of the first amendment. on the one
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clean is the best way to do this, the traditional way to do this, to where we are now, which is how big a deficit reduction package should accompany it? >> well, as i think the speaker of the house is discovering tonight and is the reality that we all live with here in washington, lawrence, which is that this is a divided government. a two-party system. nobody gets entirely what he or she wants. and, yes, if we had been doing this in the normal way, as has been historically done, there would have been a clean debt ceiling vote, which traditionally has been an unpleasant vote often for members of congress, but routine and noncontroversial and certainly not tied to any kind of deficit reduction package or any other measure for that matter. what happened is that the speaker of the house made clear that -- and republicans in general that they were linking the willingness to raise the debt ceiling to significant deficit reduction. as you know, for a long time, we rejected the link. but because we believe we need to reduce our deficits and get our debt under control. we also worked concurrent
clean is the best way to do this, the traditional way to do this, to where we are now, which is how big a deficit reduction package should accompany it? >> well, as i think the speaker of the house is discovering tonight and is the reality that we all live with here in washington, lawrence, which is that this is a divided government. a two-party system. nobody gets entirely what he or she wants. and, yes, if we had been doing this in the normal way, as has been historically done, there...
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>> there's clearly a big opening. there's a big group of the republican party that's not that enthusiastic about mitt romney, hasn't been for some time. if they're not now, they probably never will be. i think there's a group that would tolerate him because they think he's electable. michele bachma has caught fire, especially with tea party activists, but it's not clear that enough republicans think she would be electable. and i think rick perry is looking at the field and saying i can bridge those two. he's talking to donors who sat out who are saying we'd like to back you to do that. there's certainly an opening, it's not too late, although there are difficulties getting in as far as getting consultants and locking some of the big bundlers, but they're not prohibitive. >> jonathan, we have rick perry, a charismatic and certainly likes the attention kind of politician. is this a ploy for media attention or do you think that he's really ramping up as he gives that quote which is so kind of all over the place. but the
>> there's clearly a big opening. there's a big group of the republican party that's not that enthusiastic about mitt romney, hasn't been for some time. if they're not now, they probably never will be. i think there's a group that would tolerate him because they think he's electable. michele bachma has caught fire, especially with tea party activists, but it's not clear that enough republicans think she would be electable. and i think rick perry is looking at the field and saying i can...
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there is no time to get something this big done before the august 2 deadline. it literally cannot be passed through the senate in time even if everybody likes it. the other rainbow/sunshine problem here is the president and the senate agreeing on this or anything doesn't get you further towards raising the debt ceiling, it's not just the president and the senate, it's crazy town down the hallway too, it's john boehner's republican house, that likes the idea of the nation defaulting, that thinks the explosion of the economy might be pretty or at least warm for a second. they are not looking for a good deal or achieve particular policy objectives, regardless of what they get, they are not going to vote to raise the debt ceiling. the republicans who are running for president from the house of representatives, for example, are not saying don't raise the debt ceiling unless, don't raise the debt ceiling until, they are saying don't raise the debt ceiling at all. let's see what happens. this is how republican congresswoman michele bachmann's first presidential campai
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>> lucky for you and congressman kucinich, i'm hearing this big bargain with the big three on the table is off the table so to speak. right now, senator mcconnell and reid are working on their hybrid approach. there's not enough time to consider this package that's been put for by the gang of six. there's some members who have talked about getting a one month extension to the debt ceiling, so they can have the congressional budget office score it. that's probably not going to happen p. it doesn't make sense legislatively. the more we're hearing from the gang of six proposal, the more opponent's it's getting. conservatives are against it. even though congressman kucinich is right, it would get rid of the alternative minimum tax. >> senate republican leadership aids sent mike allen an e-mail explaining why republicans don't like the gang of six plan. here it is, the president killed any chance of its success by embracing it, hailing the fact that it increases taxes, and saying it mirrors his own plan. isn't the whole gift of this not to give president obama any kind of successful leg up o
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big news on civil rights tonight. an historic announcement scheduled for tomorrow afternoon at the pentagon. why bury an historic civil rights announcement on a friday afternoon in july? i am never understand why they schedule these things like this. more details ahead. [ engine revving ] [ male announcer ] 125 years ago... we invented the automobile. ♪ and 80,000 patents later, we're still reinventing it. ♪ it's no coincidence that the oldest car company has the youngest and freshest line in the luxury class. mercedes-benz. see your authorized mercedes-benz dealer for exceptional offers on the e-class. ♪ whose long day starts with arthritis pain... and a choice. take tylenol arthritis and maybe up to six in a day... or choose aleve and two pills for a day free of pain. happy chopping. covergirl trublend has skin twin technology. other makeup can sit on your skin, so it looks like...makeup. but trublend has skin twin technology to actually merge with your skin. how easy breezy beautiful is that? trublend...from
big news on civil rights tonight. an historic announcement scheduled for tomorrow afternoon at the pentagon. why bury an historic civil rights announcement on a friday afternoon in july? i am never understand why they schedule these things like this. more details ahead. [ engine revving ] [ male announcer ] 125 years ago... we invented the automobile. ♪ and 80,000 patents later, we're still reinventing it. ♪ it's no coincidence that the oldest car company has the youngest and freshest line...
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they're going to protect the big three. they want some revenue increases although the two plans on the table don't have that. so we still could be a long way from some kind of conclusion. obama associate told me today that if the president had an extension come to his desk, he feels that president would be obligated to sign it. what's the president going to do? not sign an extension? let the economy default? that's not a very good option. joining us now live from capitol hill, house minority whip steny hoyer of maryland. congressman, great to have you with us tonight. it has been a whirlwind of news. i'll just ask you straight up, what can you tell us at this hour? where are we? >> i think what we're seeing, ed, is a stark example of why we could not no matter what we did come to a compromise with the republicans. their leader wanted to do that. but the party of no is saying no to their own deal. the party of no is putting at risk the american taxpayer, the american family and america itself. i think the american public has
they're going to protect the big three. they want some revenue increases although the two plans on the table don't have that. so we still could be a long way from some kind of conclusion. obama associate told me today that if the president had an extension come to his desk, he feels that president would be obligated to sign it. what's the president going to do? not sign an extension? let the economy default? that's not a very good option. joining us now live from capitol hill, house minority...